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    • #14272
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Hi I have a gt650r 2008 I have changed the waterpump gearing cog and put everything back no leaks new gaskets etc when I try to start the bike back up if I turn the ignition on and try to fire it up its just fuel trying to pump fuel through but there’s no turning over or a spark but the bike does have an F1 code on the speedo just flashes continuously

      Iv changed the starter motor solenoid changed to a new ytx14-bs and it still making a thudding sound I’m a bit stumped as iv changed the spark plugs aswell the bike was running before hand now I’m just confused

      All the electrics are working the lights don’t try to dim on pressing the start button iv tried to bypass the starter motor solenoid and it makes no difference either

      Any help would be appreciated

    • #14276
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      @mf448kxn6
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      Next time…

      Do this. Key on and off three times within 2 seconds.

      Then it will blink. Count the blinks.  It is the ECU tell you a fault code.

      Eg.

      10 blinks(pause)2 blinks(pause)10blinks(pause) 1 blink

      Equals 10 – 2 – 10 – 1

      Translates to Injector at cylinder #1 for example.

       

      Further instructions are in every service manual i have uploaded on this site for 650s.  Example, it will explain how to get injector #1 running.

      Somtimes it will also blink

      10 8 5 2 10

      10 8 5 2 10

      Example = Neutral sensor , Clutch Switch (no bypassing) , side stand (bypass yes) OR the rider is NOT holding clutch in before pressing start.

       

      Regards

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #14277
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Iv tried it and nothing came up or changed and i tryed the in the kilswitch on and with it off no difference had been made i have found a fuse 30 amp thats burnt out so gonna change that but i dont think it would make a difference

      I have looked in the on the self diagnosis i dont think there much iption but to change all the relays i dont wanna have to try that route as its expensive

      When the killswitch is off its saying cHe aswell

    • #14280
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      I found after trying to start it this in the picture was getting hot aswell from the round piece the sensor plugs into

      im not sure would it be worth getting a new starter relay as iv replaced the starter solenoid

    • #14281
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      @mf448kxn6
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      Remove the part and show us what it is .

      Also ,  remove battery for a few hours to clear the energy left from the harness that might feed the ecu accidently while off.

      Then plug in again – Go to the forum , download the service manual for the ECU that matches your bike or year model. There is explanations how to get a fault code.  If it won’t start, the ECU throws a code.

      If the FI light is blinking = the ECU is throwing a fault code. Count the blinks when it doesn.

      CHE comes on when Kill Switch is ON = That is normal.  It means the bike won’t start until the red button is pressed down towards you instead of front tyre.

      CHE disappears , the Fuel Pump starts priming , if it is cranking with the FI light still on,  sometimes it just means your injection system , wires around there or plugs near ECU or  ECU issues.

      EFi bikes not easy compared to carb bikes, so trying to get a code helps tell you which sensor is stopping the bike from starting.

      If something is getting hot simply from cranking = there is a problem there or potential fire hazard.

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #14286
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Here is a picture of what was getting hot it was cleaned up since the picture so now its not white so i did clean it inside but since i put it back on cleaned up its not made a difference (was worth a try)

    • #14288
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

    • #14291
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

    • #14292
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      To be fair i could do with loom that takes a mitsibushi ecu as this is becoming a nightmare really where the loom has been mucked about with, iv had no luck with getting the front injector to work aswell as still not able to get a fault code flicking it on and off a 3 times in 2 times doesnt change anything and i cant find out where it says it in the forum either

    • #14294
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      @mf448kxn6
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      Usually any of the 650 EFI manuals advise how to get a code , then again if it is blinking , count the blinks and let us know.

      That object is the Idle Speed Control Valve  (ISCV) ,  it runs when the bike fires up , then controls idling and general very low speed throttle behavior. It is called a Stepper Motor.

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #14295
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Its just continious thudding on the battery but fuel pump is still working i cam hear fuel when i try to fire it so surely its something disabling the injector

    • #14296
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Would you be able to get hold of the dealer mode switch or know where i can get one to at all

    • #14297
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      @mf448kxn6
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      Would you be able to get hold of the dealer mode switch or know where i can get one to at all

      The pins can be bridged with a paper clip.  Usually its the blue line and the one next to it in the same line.  Dealer switch is just an On/Off toggle.

       

      Its just continious thudding on the battery but fuel pump is still working i cam hear fuel when i try to fire it so surely its something disabling the injector

      I don’t know what you mean the battery is thudding ?  Explain more on this thudding…

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    • #14318
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Iv found the issue its the code C12 so its the pick up coils im trying to find some asap but im insire what ones are needed which years fit the mitsibushi ecu model would it be the 05-09 ei or non ei as its an fi model

    • #14320
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      @mf448kxn6
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      SV650 will be ok , must be 1999 only  (because after that they changed suzuki coils to twin spark which does not work on Hyosung)

      Between 1998-1999 Mitsubishi made coils identical for GT650 and SV650  (Same coil literally!)

      Obviously after 2010 (i believe) Hyosung changed to Hankuk coils  , then 2013+ to DELPHi coils to this day.

      We don’t know if the last keeper changed the coils or not since you have that error, so get a picture up and they do vary in size & ohms resistance!

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #14327
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      I changed the stator amd pickup coil stol lcomes up with c12 sp will fhamge the ignition coils aswell

    • #14328
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      The rectifier might need changing so will replace this aswell would the gen 1 sv650 fit 1999 model on this bike the coils

      iv ordered the sv gen 1 coils aswell should be here next few days

    • #14329
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Iv also ordered an sv 650 1999 starter motor as this comes under code c12

    • #14331
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      @mf448kxn6
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      Hyosung uses different plugs for their reg recs,  go on ebay and try these i am very sure one of them will charge fine. Cheap test parts , you get 3 anyways to tide you over for a long while.
      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/256113919119

      Shop has upgrade stators and upgrade regs with a lifetime warranty of the reg, think about that in the future

      Now C12 code ,  yes there is a topic on this forum about “alternative starter motors” to use to crank the bike up.

      Follow service manual with a meter when it asks
      – how many ohms stator
      – how many ohms spaking coils
      – how many ohms injectors

      The ECU will flag up if it doesn’t like the resistance going to them.

      (more resistance in wires usually means , it will burn when she is hot , eventually, more like a slow kill)

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    • #14332
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      @mf448kxn6
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      See last post here too,  C12 error was discovered by another 650 member

      Dash not working, not starting gt650r

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    • #14343
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      Teah i will do currently Mine I would of thought it needs the rectifier changing (got one on order as we speak) just the as it goes hand in hand with the stator and pickup coil, where its not cranking and there is no bypass on the solenoid I’m gonna change the starter motor aswell (makes sense to get these bits renewed)

      I need to get a tester its on my list to do

    • #14344
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      It says it wont fit the 650 model on your ad on ebay

    • #14357
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      @mf448kxn6
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      It says it wont fit the 650 model on your ad on ebay

      It was a precaution as some 650 models have different plugs now after later years to avoid confusing less educated people on ebay.  But if my plugs match yours, it will fit fine.

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    • #14415
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      It was the starter motor the wire that connects to starter wire the connection spins and now the ring has snapped off so its becoming impossible to grab the bottom bolt to undo the top one to change either over but I did bypass it earlier so she is alive

      If you do know of any 650 battery’s for fi as the sv one didn’t fit at all for mine

    • #14420
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      @mf448kxn6
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      Yuasa YTX 14BS

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    • #14428
      Keiran king
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      I don’t know why it says battery must be auto correct was ment to say starter motor

    • #14431
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      The starter motor is burnt out completetly I’m trying an sv650 one 1999 on mine to see if it works but not sure it does doesn’t seem like it wants to go currently gonna keep trying to see if I get anywhere

    • #14432
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      @gv250aquila
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      Gt125rc

      So finally I got there and its all working and sorted mot is due in a few days so defo a clean bill of health for it a 650 bill to get her running but we got there thank you so much for the help it’s appreciated marcel

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