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    • #7959
      Nick
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      @nickoo
      Cambridge
      Gt125r

      Hi everyone i have had a dyno done on my gt125r carbs exhaust and airflow all good only 6 hp do you know what will be coursing this thanks in advance

    • #7960
      Tom
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      @kernow
      Cornwall
      GV125

      Horse power depends on four things (presuming no sprocket changes etc).

      1 Air

      2 fuel

      3 spark

      4 compression

      Thats the list, anything further than that would be internals and that would be evident.

      Have you checked your compression? (Piston rings or valve clearance)

    • #7961
      Nick
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      @nickoo
      Cambridge
      Gt125r

      Hi thanks my fuel air sprokets are all good i am getting a compression test today so if thats okay then its my spark would that affect my top speed as bike runs perfect just no top speed its been on dyno and exhust carbs air its perfect thank in advance

    • #7963
      ā™ ļø MARCEL
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      @mf448kxn6
      North UK
      GTR

      Let us know the results of the compression test resultsĀ  (after the engine is hot, and crank bike full throttle with both plugs out) but tell the mechanic also cause sometimes they leave one plug inside causing bike to fire, the spark plugs must be physically out of the engine not just disconnected from the HT casps.

      Just adding to what Tom said above ^ ,Ā  go with what he says , even clearances pay dividentsĀ  (valves too loose or too tight gets worse when bike is hot) thus , alas , the speed woes happen as valve head isn’t being 100% efficient.

      If we can deal with the engine from top to bottom , before we can focus on any parts outside of the engineĀ  (whatever is under the frame responsible for keeping the bike going)

      Clutch may be next , have macro meters and vernier calipers ready to measure the clutch ,Ā  HP losses can happen on heat fatigued old springs and worn glazed up clutch platesĀ Ā  , hence Korea says in their service books clutch should either be “looked at” orĀ  “changed” around every 4/5k due nature of the heavy bike with 2 hungry pistons , it can tax the clutch a bit.

      keep us posted!

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #7965
      Nick
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      @nickoo
      Cambridge
      Gt125r

      Thankyou very much ill keep you updated just wsnt my bike running good now as i very much enjoy riding it just massive lack of power i know the clutch is very worn ive orded a new one any way thank you guys

    • #7971
      Nick
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      @nickoo
      Cambridge
      Gt125r

      Hi my psi is 106 and 115 will that be reducing my bike to 6bhp thanks

    • #7972
      Tom
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      @kernow
      Cornwall
      GV125

      According to the service manual the compression service limit is 8kg (113psi), it should sit around 10-12kg (140-170psi).Ā  So you are at the service limit and it would indicate that things are a miss somewhere.Ā  Probably just valve clearance, if a valve stays open or does not open properly the compression is adversely affected and you get a rapid drop off in HP.Ā  Combine low compression with a slippy clutch, carb issues or exhaust leaking near the head then bike will be greatly under powered.

      How old is the bike?

      What mileage has it done?

      Do you know its service history?

      Service history is important because a bike set up properly with the correct oil etc will last and perform beautifully.Ā  If a bike has been run with low oil, wrong oil or even too much oil it can quickly damage the rings causing compression loss.Ā  Running a lean (hot) bike can also damage the piston and rings, I have seen pistons burned through from running lean.Ā  A discoloured exhaust is often a visual sign of a bike running too lean and hot.

      If an owner just ignores dropping speeds and power loss it will mess things up badly, unfortunately the poorly cared for bike is often passed on to a new owner who has no idea a numpty did not care for it.

      The first step I would take before assuming terrible things (you have not mentioned excessive exhaust smoke which would indicate rings) would be check the valve clearance.Ā  These are really tough little engines, but they need to be cared for.

       

    • #7986
      Nick
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      @nickoo
      Cambridge
      Gt125r

      Hi jist to let you all know my engine has seized soild i have picked up a replament today on my old engine the front head was filling with fuel when bike wasnt on so it was hydro locking do you know what wpuld course the fuel to keep going in to head like that cheers

    • #7988
      Tom
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      @kernow
      Cornwall
      GV125

      Bloomin hell, what a journey you are having.

      Is it carb or EFi? Are you sure it was fuel not water that was the excess liquid?

      For those reading this;

      Hydro locking is where you have to much liquid in the cylinder.Ā  When the stroke of the piston goes to compress the fuel air mix the excess of liquid cannot be compressed by the piston.Ā  This means that something has to give.Ā  The result is usually a bent piston rod but it can shatter the cylinder walls/piston etc.Ā  This results is a seized engine due to the damaged internals.

      The usual cause of hyro locking is water getting in the the cylinder chamber but can be caused by excess fuel etc.

      If an engine is hydro locked, say from flooding, then removal of the spark plugs allows the excess liquid to flow out without damaging the engine internals.

    • #7989
      Tom
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      @kernow
      Cornwall
      GV125

      I should clarify when I say from flooding, I mean immersion in water.

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