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      Danny
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      @dannho
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      Gtr650

      GTR650 just goes click wont start full new battery good fuel. Any helpful suggestions welcome

       

      cheers in advance

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      @mf448kxn6
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      You mean if you press “start” it just makes faint or loud clicks ?

      Also does the dashboard dim dark or act funny like its disco lights all over the places ? (all this while pressing start)

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #8190
      Danny
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      @dannho
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      You mean if you press “start” it just makes faint or loud clicks ? Also does the dashboard dim dark or act funny like its disco lights all over the places ? (all this while pressing start)

      no all lights and dash work as they should also shorting out the starter relay gets no spark but gets click from start button. (If that makes sence)

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      @mf448kxn6
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      – Neutral Sensor (is it on?) , has it shown signs of abuse near the sprocket ?
      – Clutch Lever Handlebar switch  (no need to bypass but check circuit isn’t broken with a meter ?)
      – Stator Pickup Sensor ? = Check it isn’t gummed up with dirt or fishy  (plug is Blue & Green , white shell)
      Check omhs under 200 , and report back?
      – Engine Black Box all fully connected ?
      I say black box as i am unsure it is EFi (ECU) or  CDI Unit (Carby) – So will generalize them as the “black boxes”.

      – Is the sidestand switch bypassed (recommended)

      Also, do this safely! – Have a friend push you down a private road and drop to 1nd gear and see if the bike  starts from the crank ?

      We’re doing a process of elemination now.  The fact the button says “click click” , means the circuit from the start button going to the solenoid isn’t broken (ie. wires okay)

      I do hope in the end of all this its just solenoid or the 1st three electric parts above cutting sparks off.

      Update us all and i will keep an eye on this topic.

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

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      Danny
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      Gtr650

      – Neutral Sensor (is it on?) , has it shown signs of abuse near the sprocket ? – Clutch Lever Handlebar switch (no need to bypass but check circuit isn’t broken with a meter ?) – Stator Pickup Sensor ? = Check it isn’t gummed up with dirt or fishy (plug is Blue & Green , white shell) Check omhs under 200 , and report back? – Engine Black Box all fully connected ? I say black box as i am unsure it is EFi (ECU) or CDI Unit (Carby) – So will generalize them as the “black boxes”. – Is the sidestand switch bypassed (recommended) Also, do this safely! – Have a friend push you down a private road and drop to 1nd gear and see if the bike starts from the crank ? We’re doing a process of elemination now. The fact the button says “click click” , means the circuit from the start button going to the solenoid isn’t broken (ie. wires okay) I do hope in the end of all this its just solenoid or the 1st three electric parts above cutting sparks off. Update us all and i will keep an eye on this topic.

      thank you for you informational reply good sir. I shall check all the above as far as i know it has a delphi ecu.

      Cheers

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      @mf448kxn6
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      – Neutral Sensor (is it on?) , has it shown signs of abuse near the sprocket ? – Clutch Lever Handlebar switch (no need to bypass but check circuit isn’t broken with a meter ?) – Stator Pickup Sensor ? = Check it isn’t gummed up with dirt or fishy (plug is Blue & Green , white shell) Check omhs under 200 , and report back? – Engine Black Box all fully connected ? I say black box as i am unsure it is EFi (ECU) or CDI Unit (Carby) – So will generalize them as the “black boxes”. – Is the sidestand switch bypassed (recommended) Also, do this safely! – Have a friend push you down a private road and drop to 1nd gear and see if the bike starts from the crank ? We’re doing a process of elemination now. The fact the button says “click click” , means the circuit from the start button going to the solenoid isn’t broken (ie. wires okay) I do hope in the end of all this its just solenoid or the 1st three electric parts above cutting sparks off. Update us all and i will keep an eye on this topic.

      thank you for you informational reply good sir. I shall check all the above as far as i know it has a delphi ecu. Cheers

      Also just to add, since its a Delphi  ECU ,  you should hear the fuel pump prime when you turn the key on and the Fi light should disappear once bike has started too.

      Fortunately, if you do this safely , have a paper clip of metal.  Then download the service manual on this forum for the EFi 650 ,  go to where it says “getting error code from ECU”   , if a sensor near throttle body is fishy or fuel pump or even the lambda sensor or ET/AiT (temp sensors) the ecu would flag a code “C45” as am example on the dash once you do the instructions on the service manual

      The paper clip will do the same job as a rocker switch mentioned in the manual.

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

    • #8202
      Danny
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      @dannho
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      Gtr650

      – Neutral Sensor (is it on?) , has it shown signs of abuse near the sprocket ? – Clutch Lever Handlebar switch (no need to bypass but check circuit isn’t broken with a meter ?) – Stator Pickup Sensor ? = Check it isn’t gummed up with dirt or fishy (plug is Blue & Green , white shell) Check omhs under 200 , and report back? – Engine Black Box all fully connected ? I say black box as i am unsure it is EFi (ECU) or CDI Unit (Carby) – So will generalize them as the “black boxes”. – Is the sidestand switch bypassed (recommended) Also, do this safely! – Have a friend push you down a private road and drop to 1nd gear and see if the bike starts from the crank ? We’re doing a process of elemination now. The fact the button says “click click” , means the circuit from the start button going to the solenoid isn’t broken (ie. wires okay) I do hope in the end of all this its just solenoid or the 1st three electric parts above cutting sparks off. Update us all and i will keep an eye on this topic.

      ok so after doing step by step and checking inbetween steps it finally has life. How i followed the starter main lead took out the starter bench tested it put it back in and broom broom it started. Thank you for pointing me in the rite direction. Now il take it for a ride without restriction on it and see what the difference is.

      cheers

    • #8211
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      @mf448kxn6
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      I am happy that it finally is breathing back to life, this is great! – I will probably find out if i can start doing rebuild kits for these starter motors than buying a full unit , could just mean a small part inside probably jammed thats all.

      // Meditation doesn't mean you have to sit still....

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