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[Tutorial] How to adjust Carb Slide Needle (Tuning) – Hyosung GV & GT 125/250

[Tutorial] How to adjust Carb Slide Needle (Tuning) - Hyosung GV & GT 125/250
How to adjust/tune the carburettor slide needle for improved riding…


⚙ What does this do?
This modification allows the bike to reach better cruising speeds , via the slide needle adjustments.  The throttle slide needle is what controls the main jet fuelling as revs go up & down while riding.  This also eliminates some of the odd flat spots that happen during the 4k-7k rpm range , commonly on the 125s.  In other words, for example if the bike starts to pull at almost full twist throttle , this mod will make it pull with less of a twist.  Your bike should run better from 1st to 5th… fuelling wise…

👇  Before we start, This tutorial will assume the following:

  • You will do this at your own risk & without rushing.
  • You have better spark plugs (ie. Platinums) or older common IX plugs.
  • Your ignition coils & HT caps are sparking good
  • Your carb has already been upjetted (tap here…)
  • You have a performance filter (K&N, BMC, etc)
    or if you have a white-stock cotton one -> cut its snorkel.

Tools needed:

  • JIS type screwdriver
    ( +philips style )
  • Large & long flat___  head screwdriver
  • Size 7mm socket
    (sometimes bolts near the front are hex shaped.)
  • Watchmaker flat screw driver
  • Clean microfibre cloth

 

 

1. Go to the right side of your bike
You will spend most of your time here. Do 1 pot each time.
Make sure you do not get distracted as we are taking out small parts!

2. Unscrew the 1st diaphragm cover 
Remove the 4 bolts that hold the diaphragm cover
⚠ You need to disconnect your throttle cable also.

3. Remove the spring & the diaphragm
Once the cover is off,  gently remove the piston slide & its spring.

 

4. Inspect the parts for any debris  and clean them.  
Use Wynns Carb Cleaner to clean these parts including the diaphragm cover👍
This will stop your slides sticking between revs / gears & scoring to the internal carb walls.

[Tutorial] How to adjust Carb Slide Needle (Tuning) - Hyosung GV & GT 125/250

 

5. Unscrew the plastic plug holding the needle
Use a long good flat blade screwdriver for this and BE GENTLE – ⚠You do not want to damage this plug!

 

6.  Do not forget the order of re-fitting back!
Keep this image in mind, when you refit the needle back. The order of these small bits is crucial too.
[Tutorial] How to adjust Carb Slide Needle (Tuning) - Hyosung GV & GT 125/250

 

7. Remove the E-Ring (Circlip) on the needle   (SLOWLY!)  
⚠ This tiny part must be removed gently with a small watchmaker screwdriver only,don’t pull it!

 

8A. See those 3 grooves on the needle?   Read on…  

  • A. The pointy end of needle FACES DOWN
  • B. Push down the “black spacer” a little bit.
  • C. Put the “E-RING (circlip)” in the 3rd GROOVE
  • D. Push the “black spacer” back against the E-Ring (Circlip)

[Tutorial] How to adjust Carb Slide Needle (Tuning) - Hyosung GV & GT 125/250

8B.  Here is another view for you…

You want your “E-Ring” on the 3rd notch mark like the finished example including the black spacer being pushed back to where it was.
(Lowest groove with pointy end of slide needle facing down.  The Factory set-up is usually the 2nd (middle) or top (1st) near the FLAT end of the needle.)

9A. Grab the throttle slide and look for this hole…
Make sure the hole shown in image is clear  and  proceed to  9B ….
hyosung throttle slide piston gv125 gt125r gt250r gv250

 

9B.  Grab your needle too and follow the image….

9C.  Slot the “Needle => first.”  & its mini-spring on top. 
⚠ Go back to #6 ^  , to remember how the needle spring goes in.
⚠ Remember what was said in 9A & 9B ^

 

10.  Check the needle for free movement (a little bounce back)
Follow the 2 images for instructions/check up…

10B.   Dress up the ring of the throttle slide with a temp oily coat.
It is going back to the carb, so you want to make sure the ring of the slide will sit firmly & create a good seal once fitted. This is to help prevent any unwarranted air leaks / external particle trapping.

 

11.  Put the slide and big spring & close it up.

– Don’t forget to connect back your throttle cable
– Ensure the 4 screws are nice and tight (finger tight)
Finished?  Go open the next cover…

12.  Repeat at the rear carb, what you did at the front…
Repeat steps 2 to 11^ on your rear carb.

13.   Finished?  🏁  Check your lines before riding…🚦
Final check ups before you start riding , so attention to the following:

  • Air box clamps are still tight – check.
  • The carb slide cover bolts are finger tight (x8)
  • Throttle cable & choke cable are checked.
  • check your air lines and tighten them (preventing any vacuum leaks)


Done! this should have been a straightforward process ,  if you are unsure of something , just comment on this topic.   Otherwise,  go ride! 🏁


FAQ’s / Troubleshooting 🎳
  • My bike runs worse after I did this mod, what gives?
    Check again the covers are tight so its not leaking air or check your intake system too (airbox area)
  • No air leaks, but it still runs worse?
    Your spark plugs may need to be looked at, if its very sooty, clean it.
    Also remember this mod expects you to have some better sparking than a stock hyosung does
  • It has new spark plugs, but still worse…?
    If you have Platinum plugs fitted or  the IX ones , but the plugs appear sooty…
    You may need to investigate your HT Cap & Ignition Coils.
    HT Cap on its own (removed) = 6k ohms on your multi meter it should say.
    Ignition Coil = 6k ohms max  when you measure coil HT WIRE and you bike FRAME. 
  • Okay, the HT cap or coils are showing higher values than 6K ohms? Any fixes?
    Replace them both.   The stock ignition sparking parts can’t be user-repaired.
    All Hyosung stock coils and their “GOLDEN” branded caps not great, another main cause of boggy runs on the 125cc bikes especially.
  • I changed the coils and HT caps already, its still worse?
    Look at your main jets are clean and also investigate your pilot jets
    The ofricies in the 125cc jets are very small! like this text!
    Tap this link (here…) to learn how to remove the carbs off the bike
  • Can I do this on a stock 125cc un-modded bike (ie. brand new machine)
    Not really, it is already running leaner, so raising the needle may help a bit but jetting and uprating the electrics a little will make this mod more effective , because raising the needle makes the mid range a bit richer. (extra fueling)

How to upgrade Fuel Lines & Filter on Hyosung GT125R GT250R (Carb Hose Diagram)

Hyosung Gt125r fuel lines diagram filter hose


New Fuel Lines ? Let’s cut to the chase….
(No pun intended!)

This topic intends to show you how to swap your stock lines to larger uprated braided ones.
(By the way if your STOCK/ORIGINAL fuel lines are 2-4yrs old , you must change them regardless – As per service manual)

A. *️⃣  Pros / Cons of the braided / fresh ones vs old stock lines ?

  • Larger fuel filters (3x size) benefit from a gravity assist (& a cleaner reserve). Such filters of this size last about 15-20K miles (except china)
  • Braided hoses last more years & are more heat resistant than the basic skinny lines. (40-100*c)
  • Carbs are less likely to wait for fuel delivery as bigger lines flow more fluid faster.
  • As the bike gets more fuel = It is slightly more spirited through the gears.
    (Hint = Aftermarket exhausts will have a *very slightly* deeper exhaust note)
  • If you have bigger jets installed on the bike, bigger lines help.
  • Cons: None.

Be warned. Chinese fuel lines are very cheap, but why pay twice (don’t last even 1-2yrs) or risk fuel leaks on a hot engine!?


B. 🏍 What bikes does this work on?

  • All carb models of GT125R & Carby GT250Rs
    (Carburetors = That huge silver device between the two v-twin engines)
  • Naked GT Comet Bikes
    (If unsure, just comment on this topic!)

C. 🔧 Tools required:

  • A Cutting tool … & … a flat ( – ) screwdriver.
  • Size 10mm / 12mm spanner or socket.
  • “Stubby /Shortie” ( + ) Plus screwdriver
  • A clean cloth or a towel rag.

🚧 DISCLAIMER: THIS SHOULD BE DONE IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA OR OUTDOOR (FUEL VAPOR!)
FOLLOW THIS GUIDE AT YOUR OWN GOOD COMPETENCE & UNDERSTAND THAT CUSTOM PARTS “MAY” VOID YOUR WARRANTY ON NEW BIKES! 🚧


1. Let’s begin! – Remove your fuel tank.

  • Grab a size 10/12mm spanner or socket & unscrew the bolt that is holding the tank to the frame.
  • Afterwards, disconnect the 2 pipes under your Tank.
  • Then, put the tank away elsewhere for now.
    ⚠️ Watch out for the “Fuel Level Sensor” wire too! –> BE SLOW & UNPLUG IT! ⚠️

Fuel Lines Gt125R Hyosung

fuel lines diagram gt125 250 hyosung

 

2. The Air Box comes off next!

  • Unscrew the bolts which are marked in the pictures below…
  • 🔩 2x bolts = airbox-to-carb metal clamps (black color)
  • 🔩 2x bolts = airbox-to-frame (Click for larger size images)

[Tutorial] Hyosung GT & GT 125/250 - How to swap carburetor Jets [Tutorial] Hyosung GT & GT 125/250 - How to swap carburetor Jets

 

3. Your bike should be exposed like this now

fuel lines gt250r hyosung diagram

 

4. Change the “CARB -> TO -> PUMP ” fuel line

  • A. Remove the hose that connects the carburetor to the fuel pump (at rear)
  • B. Replace it with a NEW LINE (Swap Old Line for New Line)

– – Remember, keep the fuel lines nice & straight! – –
– – ANOTHER SHOUT = TIGHTEN CLAMPS TO PREVENT FUEL LEAKS! —

 

5. A Finished Example = Carb to Pump

fuel lines diagram gv125

 

 

6. Ditch your old filter & old lines in the bin!🚮
🚧 NOTE = FUEL MAY SPILL OUT FROM THE OLD FILTER…
{⚠️COVER YOUR ELECTRICS!}

fuel lines gt125rc hyosung

 

7. Grab your new filter & cut 2 new *short* pipes!

  • Make sure you use strong clamps to prevent leaks
  • Use the cartoon image to help you orient the filter the right way

fuel lines carb fuel diagram hyosung
Fuel diagram fuel lines hyosung

 

8. Ready? Install the filter to the rear pump!
(Keep the fuel lines nice & short! = No kinks!)

fuel lines hyosung gv250

 

9.  Refit your AirBox back on the bike.

  • So go back up ^  to step #2 above  and fit your airbox back on the bike!
  • Take your time & tighten all airbox bolts to prevent AIR LEAKS !

fuel lines diagram gt125 250 hyosung

 

10.   Last step! Time to fit the tank now.

  • Use the images below as a guide to connect the final 2 pipes. (Fuel & Air-Vacuum lines)
  • Don’t forget to also connect your “Electrical Fuel Level Sensor”  (white plug)
  • Once the pipes & wires are connected,  secure the tank to the bike.
  • Tidy up & grab a helmet!

fuel lines diagram gt125 250 hyosung fuel lines diagram gt125 250 hyosung

 

 

Go ride the bike! 🏁


Sidenotes / Q&A 🎳 :

1. My filter has low fuel levels in it. Why?
Check that your filter is installed the right direction.

2. The filter looks good , but it is still low in fuel. Do I Top-up?
Top up your tank.  Low fuel levels make trips harder.

3.  I am getting HIGH Revs on idle, what happened ?
There is an air leak near the airbox or carburetors, so make sure all bolts are tight.
(That also includes metal clamps under the airbox too!)

4.  The Airbox is fine, but the revs are still high!
Check your choke lever  (it is next to your clutch lever) .  To turn off the CHOKE , slide it towards the front tyre.

5. The bike won’t start after changing the fuel lines….?
Check that you connected the pipes the right way & filter is the right direction.
It takes about 2 extra seconds to crank the bike after changing lines.
Here is a hint: when the bike cranks over (starting up),  you will see fuel drip in to the filter!


The end!🎲
If you have any questions  or get stuck,  just reply to this topic.   I hope this guide helps you!

Credits 📜:
Images (@Danny.M) // YouTube Video(@Luke.B)

[Bike Mod] GV650 & GT650 : Modification of the TOS sensor (Tip Over Sensor Mod)

I did not write this , but give credits to the lad who made this.
(BTW, follow at your own risk!)


Quote from book :


The TOS sensor, the same in the GT650 and GV650, turns the ignition off when an emergency happens
such as excessive tilting or the tipping over of the bike. If the sensor is not working it will create a situation
whereby after a short time of about 2 seconds after the ignition is switched off the injection pump is disabled
and you cannot fire up the engine.
When this happens, the display will always show an “FI” error. When this happens the sensor should be
checked. Put the bike into service mode. There should be displayed error c23. This means that the sensor is
faulty and needs replacing. If there is any problem with buying a new sensor, or the price of about $ 100 is
too high, you can hand-edit the faulty sensor for the engine to run properly not display FI error. The cost of
modification is only the purchase of two resistors in the price of .30₵ – .40₵ cents. The only drawback of this
modification is that if you tip over the bike while running, the ignition will not be stopped.


📕 DOWNLOAD / VIEW  – 650cc Twins – Tip Over Sensor Mod (.pdf)